chào các bác tôi đang định bê 1 đôi epos es 22 về ghép với linn , có bác nào biêt vể đôi loa này cho tôi vài rivew về nó và cho tôi hỏi linn có kéo được nó không ah , cám ơn các bác
cặp Epos 22 của bác là serie ES hay M hả bác? thông tin chưa được chính xác lắm ạ. Dòng Epos hơi khó đánh nhưng hợp amp nghe khá lắm đó bác
@bachoa Epos ES 22?? Hàng cực hiếm, em tìm bên này mấy năm nay mà chưa gặp. Ghép với Linn nghe cũng tốt. @thangviet Epos ES14: ít tiền thì dùng Rotel, nhiều tiền thì tìm ampli đèn . Em đang dùng loa này cùng pre P12+ power Simply EL84 (~10watts) hoặc Miracle ITA45(~35watts).
Giọng ES11 rất hợp thể loại nhạc chậm rãi, đặc biệt phối ghép tốt sẽ cho ta dải trầm rất chi tiết. Em không biết review thế nào cho đúng, nếu bác muốn nghe thử phối ghép của em thì luôn wellcome bác ghé tệ xá của em.
em ở sg nên chưa có cơ hội đến thăm bác! hì hì bác đang ghép em nó ntn ? em đang ghép cấu hình cd Arcam 5plus, luxman 5L15 nhưng định đổi sang Musical Fidelity A120 nhưng chưa biết có hợp ko?
Vậy bác ở trỏng :?: ES 11 em đã từng thử với Linn Majik-I: âm thanh mỏng, thiếu lực và chỉ bó hẹp trong phạm vi 2 loa. Ghép thử với Creek: khá hơn 1 chút. Ghép với Philips 302L (em này chỉ có 20W/ch): em vừa ý nhất, âm thanh rộng rãi, đầy ắp phòng 20m, đều cả 3 dải. Trong đó dải trầm làm em rất mê: mạnh mẽ và rất chi tiết tuy chưa được sâu lắm. Trình còi của em chỉ mô tả được đến thế thôi ah.
Em thì chưa có dịp thử Epos với Amp Philips nhưng với Linn và các amp khác thì nhiều lắm rồi. Cấu hình của em gồm Amp Linn Majik-I, CD AMC CD8, CD Quad 6, Dây loa ND Nordost Super Flatline MkII, dây Interconnect ND Spell Binder và VDH (ko nhớ rõ model) mid-bass không hề mỏng chút nào, bass khá chặt chẽ tuy không được sâu đối với phòng trên 15m. Đối với phòng trên 15m, Epos14 cho ra tiếng bass đầy đặn hơn, sâu hơn và không gian tốt hơn nhiều Em đã có dịp sở hữu Epos es 11, es14 và ghép với rất nhiều Amp châu âu như Linn, Arcam, Cyrus, AudioLab, MF, Quad... cũng như amp, CD Nhật như MR, Denon, Acc (nhiều quá không nhớ hết series) nhưng không hợp tai nhất là cấu hình Epos + Amp, CD Nhật, thất vọng nhất là Arcam + Epos và hài lòng nhất với Linn, ITL . Loay hoay cắm rút cặp loa tí xíu này e cũng túm được chút kinh nghiệm rằng thì là mà cái dây loa (biwire) mà không tử tế thì...con amp có khi bị ăn mắng lây E thấy hình như có nhiều bác chơi Epos với Tube và cũng khá hài lòng, tiếc rằng bây chừ em chả còn cặp Epos nào để thử nữa , mấy con amp, cd châu Âu cũng cho ra đi sạch rồi mà chửa sắm dc món nào ưng ý
Theo ý kiến riêng e thì Epos 11 không quá khó trong phối ghép, do vậy cả ta lẫn tây đều có nhiều quan điểm khi ghép epos trong đó ý kiến ghép với Naim (em không nhớ series), Audiolab 8000A, Cyrus 2/3, Arcam Delta 290 thể hiện hài lòng, CD thì đa số chọn CD Naim và các cd châu Âu. Do vậy các bác không quá khó để chọn CD và Amp cho ES11, riêng em ghép với cấu hình trên, dây Interconnect chất liệu đồng (sẽ nâng cấp), dây loa chất liệu đồng vẫn cảm thấy vừa ý! Kính các bác góp ý thêm.
EPOS và Naim là hợp như cặp vợ chồng. Các Bác tham khảo: http://forums.naim-audio.com/eve/forums ... 6041916411
phần dán giữa gân và màng loa nó có chất liệu giống như silicon nên nhìn hơi bóng, lấy tay sờ vào thì bề mặt mịn và phẳng không bị gợn đâu bác! của em như thế nào thì e chụp gửi các bác xem và góp ý, thanks các bác!
Tình cờ em đọc được một bài review khá...tâm huyết của một Epos ES22 fan bên NAIM Forum, xin chép lại đây để các bác cùng xem: "I've had ES22s for 4 years in my system, from cd3/72/hi/180 to cds2/52/135s, most combos inbetween. ES22s are ES12s on testosterone. Some reviewers thought them the "most together" and impressive of the 3-way line-up (22/25/30). And well-fed I wouldn't describe them as "polite"! They can do all the ES12s virtues without any noticable limits....(but they have expensive tastes). At purchase time I had cd3/72/hi/180, listened to ES22s against ES12/cdx combo (I could do cdx/12s for similar $$ to 22s on their own). The ES22s just did a far more convincing job of portraying music, the 12s seemed "small" in comparison. The 22s could make an orchestra sound like an orchestra, a bass like a bass....my dealer (normally pro-source) concurred .. "wait a year for the cdx, the es22s will be the foundation of your system for a long time..." Positives: very transparent and seamlessly integrated top-bottom - remind some of electrostatics. It seems counter-productive to talk of "top" and "middle" 'cos with the 22s its all part of the note and the whole. In a LARGE room (un-restricted) and with good drive they do go deep and controlled. I've heard mine easily carrying deep bass-lines that a (not so optimally set up) SBL system didn't really know were there... Tight and dynamically expressive. (Stereophile) "rhythmic drive that is as close to live as I have ever heard from loudspeakers ... quite special" "these speakers sure let go of the notes". And they scale. And boogie. I've had passers-by start dancing in the street while I've been enjoying a bit of Hendrix with the doors open, and with Smith & Mighty they can make my bones buzz..... They can carry acoustic guitar with no smear or sense of softening. Or make a concert grand piano sound like a concert grand piano right in your room. Or a vocal a real person. That said, they will sure show you when some other part of your system can't. Set up right, they make ALL music sound good in a very palpable lifelike way. HiFi News "Best speaker under GPB 2000" in '96. Set up badly, images of "chainsaw" and "broken glass" come to mind along with horror-movie mad-scientist "ringing in your ears" torture scenes ..... (I've experienced both) Negatives: They let you know when something isn't right. Emphatically. Very fussy about room positioning, I have mine 1.6m apart and 600mm out from backwall, they need to be symmetric. The dual-port design makes 1 cm significant. They don't work well on bare wooden floors, 'cos of cancellations from the 2 low-mid drivers being close to the floor sucking out the midrange (in fact neead HEAVY carpeting in front). They need to be away from sidewalls 'cos that causes splash from the tweeters. And I feel they need some acoustic dampening between on the rear wall to dampen echo/reflection from this. These speakers don't need artificial room help, they've got quite enough life on their own....that said I don't detect any "metal tweeter" limitations. Their dynamic transient ability will excite resonances, so if your room's bright or got a slap echo or resonance problem they will exacerbate this big time. Hell for nasty ringy tubular metal equipment stands. But get the room and drive right and they can disappear, and draw you totally into the music with equal aplomb whether it be string quartet or drum'n bass. NBLs are the only speakers I've heard do this categorically better. ES22s will show up limits in their feed. They're "fussy feeders". But I first had them with cd3/72/hi/180 and "ignorance was bliss" at this time.... Bringing a cdx into the equation brought a whole lot more information and the es22s showed that all was not well .. hence a whole lot of work on my room and gear setup over quite an extended period. I think the 22's transient abilities really pin-point problems in room setup or equipment stands - the later has been a big problem for me. The upside .. they encourage you to get the best out of what you've got. They do like power to show their best. I was pretty happy with my cds2/82/super/180. It wasn't until I got the supercap on the 82 I felt the bottom end of the 22s was properly musical and "grounded", I felt that the way the 22s follow notes helped draw attention to the way hicaps on an 82 compress the dynamics and cut off the bottom end. The 22s had seemed a bit "light" until then. Then I brought some 135's home The speakers were set free.. *&@# didn't know they could do that! Frank Abela wrote to me "Epos speakers need POWER" and he's right. I think the long throw design of the drivers maximises transient response but sacrifices efficiency in the process. They need amplifier grip - the amp connects straight into the bass-midrange driver with no crossover, I replug all the speaker plugs every week 'cos leave it 2 weeks and they're going off the boil and 3 weeks definitely bloated and lazy. That said I've known of someone try them on an 82/140 and been very happy. Build .. generally excellent except for the black laminate on the front. It tends to lift esp around the tweeter and can sound rough. It can be pressed back onto its adhesive, but thermal expansion and hardness with cold seem to make the problem reoccur. re comments about "ruthlessly revealing" .. actually, despite what I've said above, I wouldn't use these words. "Very transparent" .. yes. "demanding" ... yes. As I've worked the bugs out of the rest of my setup, I've finally reached a point where I think they make all my music sound like real music, and I can (do) listen to them for hours on end. I think thay can deliver the best of "round earth" and "flat earth" virtues in 1 package. SO.....the ES22s can give a huge lot, but DEMAND a lot in return. Making mine sound like they do now has taken 3 years setup tuning and a lot of $$ in front of them! Other speakers may be more flexible and easier to build a "generally good-sounding" system around for a given budget. The allae's have had some pretty good initial reports, and are probably easier to drive. I think they'd be well worth considering. But it would take NBLs to get me out of my ES22s, and they're too big for me.... I think you need to listen, and consider your lifestyle and what's practical for you.... If you like the ES12s I think the 22s would do it for you. My gut feel is I'd focus on a decent rack (Hutter? the rack is VERY IMPORTANT) to make the most of what you've got, then look for a used 250 and 82 to round out the system economically in a "safe" order. Frank Abela recommended I consider 135s before a supercap WITH the ES22s, I can see in retrospect what he was getting at. A CDI/82/hi/180 might work, but there's a risk the respective limitations might compound a bit, hence I'm suggesting 250 first as a way of giving the system some extra "ease" economically. Then big bucks time comes with a cdx/xps." Còn đây là bản dịch tiếng Việt (tự động) của Google. Hơi tệ... http://translate.google.com.vn/translat ... e0=&swap=1
Còn đây là thông tin chính thức về ES22 của nhà sản xuất: The ES22 is a compact, floor-standing loudspeaker that follows the minimalist design approach pioneered in the revered ES14. The ES22, like all Epos loudspeakers, uses sophisticated but purposeful engineering to ensure that, unlike most, it will not compromise your full enjoyment of music. Design Intentions The ES22 draws on the research that produced the widely acclaimed ES25. It aims to provide a similar, musically involving, large-scale presentation from a more easily accommodated enclosure. Like the ES25, it is designed to satisfy listeners whose priority is musical realism and not "hi-fi" artifice by presenting a faithful and exciting insight into all types of music. The High Frequency Unit The ES22’s 25mm tweeter uses an aluminium alloy diaphragm terminated by a Polyamide suspension. This combination reduces colouration and enables the driver to handle high power without distress. A vented voice coil and magnetic liquid cooling system augment its power handling ability and smooth its frequency response. Rear cavity loading and a new, high efficiency magnet system focus its transient response and eliminate temporal smearing, giving the ES22 impeccable pace, rhythm and timing. The tweeter’s excellent linearity allows it to operate with minimal external tailoring. There is only one high quality capacitor present in its signal path and this "minimalist" network design greatly increases the loudspeaker’s ability to resolve detail and dynamics. The Midrange Unit The 150mm midrange driver uses a robust, die-cast aluminium chassis fitted with a newly developed, injection moulded polymer cone. The rigid chassis provides exceptional detail resolution and transient response while the cone’s unique profile gives improved performance over its bandwidth and provides smooth integration with the tweeter. The driver will handle high levels cleanly without producing colouration or distortion. A new 32mm voice coil is wet wound on an aluminium former with high-temperature wire for efficient heat dissipation, which reduces the distortion and dynamic compression that rob music of its ‘life’. In conjunction with a computer optimised magnet assembly, this elaborate construction produces a driver whose performance is characterised by exceptional linearity, wide ranging dynamics and seamless integration with the other units. A phase plug further improves the driver’s ability to integrate and deliver outstanding stereo imagery. The driver is housed in an isolated enclosure to protect it from vibrations produced by the bass unit. The benefits include reduced distortion in the midband and superb transient response. The Low Frequency Unit The ES22’s 150mm bass driver only handles low bass. It is built around a rigid, die-cast aluminium chassis, with an injection moulded polymer cone and stiff dust cap and features a powerful motor system offering high sensitivity, substantial power handling and excellent linearity. Coupled with the unit’s rigid chassis and essentially pistonic cone assembly, this gives the ES22 an extraordinarily potent, accurate low frequency performance. The Crossover Every component in the signal path can colour, distort or degrade the music. A minimalist crossover can eliminate these problems but will only function properly with drivers whose mechanical characteristics have been appropriately engineered. The ES22 uses purpose built drivers tailored specifically for this design. The resulting performance benefits are significant. The midrange driver crosses over mechanically and is directly coupled to the power amplifier for maximum information retrieval and control. This makes the midband responsive, transparent and explicitly detailed. The bass driver and tweeter use single component networks solely to fine tune their integration with the midrange unit. The ES22’s hard-wired internal connections provide the highest attainable signal path integrity and consistent performance. Individual earth paths to the loudspeaker terminals prevent back-EMFs from one driver influencing the performance of the others. The Cabinet The design of the ES22’s cabinet provides remarkable structural integrity and the combination of complementary materials with dissimilar resonant frequencies produces an enclosure with exceptionally low levels of panel radiation, allowing the drive units to perform optimally. Extensive internal bracing reinforces the enclosure and acts as a barrier to internal standing waves, further reducing colouration and improving transient response and stereo imaging. The port for the bass driver is gas-flowed to provide consistent loading and eliminate the ‘chuffing’ distortion caused by air turbulence. The ES22’s floor-spikes fit into high torque inserts, providing enhanced transient response and stereo imaging. By allowing easy fine adjustment, these maximise the speaker’s control and ‘punch’ at low frequencies, resulting in tuneful, rhythmically faithful bass. Power Requirements The ES22 is suitable for use with any high quality amplifier rated between 50 and 175Watts. More powerful models may be used with caution, but the amplifier’s quality is more important than its power rating: a musically informative 50Watt amplifier will prove more satisfying than a less capable 175Watt model. Impedance 6 ohms nominal. Positioning The ES22 will normally perform well when placed in free space at least 50cm from the nearest wall. It does not require boundary reinforcement to deliver its intended bass response. For ideal results, however, you should treat your room as an individual acoustic environment and experiment with different placements. Often, moving the speakers a few inches closer to or further from a wall will yield superior performance. Connections Three pairs of high current, gold-plated terminals allow the ES22 to be tri-wired or tri-amplified. Providing separate feeds to each of the drive units through premium quality connectors offers worthwhile gains in stereo imagery, control and detail resolution. Auditioning Epos speakers are available exclusively through a small number of enthusiastic, highly competent retailers, chosen for their ability to demonstrate and sell complementary equipment. To guarantee satisfactory performance they must be partnered with equally capable equipment, which does not necessarily mean a combination of the best or the most highly rated components. A skilled retailer’s advice and demonstration facilities are invaluable in helping to prevent ES22 buyers wasting money on inappropriate partnering equipment. Specifications Power Handling 175 Watts speech and music Frequency Response 38Hz - 22kHz Impedance 6 ohms Nominal Sensitivity 87dB/1 watt/1 metre Finish Light or Dark Cherry wood veneer Dimensions 873mm(H) x 202mm(W) x 250mm(D) Weight 27kg An acoustically transparent foam grille is supplied
Em xin khai quật thớt này lên. Chẳng lẽ từ 2009 đến giờ vẫn chưa có bác nào nghe và đánh giá cặp Epos 22 này ạ? Vì nó dở hay nó khó kiếm ?
